[討論區]有沒有人是女生自己或是跟其他女性朋友往南美自助的 ?
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據我短暫經過南美一個多月的時間
我真的覺得南美旅遊其實很安全
在秘魯也許會覺得掮客滿街跑
不過他們不搶不打人
只是推銷東西,民宿
台灣的小琉球,綠島,澎湖
一下船不也是這個樣子嗎!?
只要自己謹慎比價應對就可以啦
至於另外在阿根廷就更加友善了
也不會有太多旅遊掮客打擾
就是自己找旅館住
找旅遊行程安排
當地人也都超願意幫忙觀光客
甚至會覺得東方人很好奇就來哈啦幾句
況且路上也是一堆外國女生自己一個人或者結伴出來玩的
也是玩的不亦樂乎
許多hostel還都男女混住
也沒怎樣
總之安啦~~~~
我真的覺得南美旅遊其實很安全
在秘魯也許會覺得掮客滿街跑
不過他們不搶不打人
只是推銷東西,民宿
台灣的小琉球,綠島,澎湖
一下船不也是這個樣子嗎!?
只要自己謹慎比價應對就可以啦
至於另外在阿根廷就更加友善了
也不會有太多旅遊掮客打擾
就是自己找旅館住
找旅遊行程安排
當地人也都超願意幫忙觀光客
甚至會覺得東方人很好奇就來哈啦幾句
況且路上也是一堆外國女生自己一個人或者結伴出來玩的
也是玩的不亦樂乎
許多hostel還都男女混住
也沒怎樣
總之安啦~~~~
手捧陽光
我想為巴拿馬和秘魯講一下話...
因為人在巴拿馬待了快二個月了
這裡的治安實在是沒話說 (Y)
不管是海邊還是渡假小島
都很安全，就連晚上出來逛
也還好。(舊中國城除外，一個人晚上不要去)
而秘魯，最近才有朋友從那自助旅行回來
給我們的經驗談是很好玩~ 很值得去!!
所以投給巴拿馬和秘魯各一票哦~~
ps. 只要是女生在外，都要自己提高警覺...
自己要保護自己。
因為人在巴拿馬待了快二個月了
這裡的治安實在是沒話說 (Y)
不管是海邊還是渡假小島
都很安全，就連晚上出來逛
也還好。(舊中國城除外，一個人晚上不要去)
而秘魯，最近才有朋友從那自助旅行回來
給我們的經驗談是很好玩~ 很值得去!!
所以投給巴拿馬和秘魯各一票哦~~
ps. 只要是女生在外，都要自己提高警覺...
自己要保護自己。
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之前與朋友 兩個女生一起去祕魯玩兩個月 共被搶了兩次
一次是白天 靠近車站的大街上 忽然有人衝出來 搶走我手上很便宜的手錶
他動作狠利落喔 所以一開始我還不知道發生什麼事
另一次是在類似夜市的地方 一個還滿明亮的公園 有人衝過來要搶我朋友放在褲子側邊口袋的小零錢包 不過他沒得逞 因為釦子扣住了 而且更誇張的是 那搶匪失手後 還回頭看我們 再慢慢走開....所以我覺得祕魯的治安不算很好喔
不過雖然被搶兩次 我們還是順利且愉快的完成行程
反正出門在外 凡事都要提高警覺囉
一次是白天 靠近車站的大街上 忽然有人衝出來 搶走我手上很便宜的手錶
他動作狠利落喔 所以一開始我還不知道發生什麼事
另一次是在類似夜市的地方 一個還滿明亮的公園 有人衝過來要搶我朋友放在褲子側邊口袋的小零錢包 不過他沒得逞 因為釦子扣住了 而且更誇張的是 那搶匪失手後 還回頭看我們 再慢慢走開....所以我覺得祕魯的治安不算很好喔
不過雖然被搶兩次 我們還是順利且愉快的完成行程
反正出門在外 凡事都要提高警覺囉
你棺材是翻蓋的還是滑蓋的
在秘魯, 有些城市很好, 有些城市有好區跟不好區, 希望棧友能把被搶的城市列出來, 可以給其它人參考.
之前與朋友 兩個女生一起去祕魯玩兩個月 共被搶了兩次
一次是白天 靠近車站的大街上 忽然有人衝出來 搶走我手上很便宜的手錶
他動作狠利落喔 所以一開始我還不知道發生什麼事
另一次是在類似夜市的地方 一個還滿明亮的公園 有人衝過來要搶我朋友放在褲子側邊口袋的小零錢包 不過他沒得逞 因為釦子扣住了 而且更誇張的是 那搶匪失手後 還回頭看我們 再慢慢走開....所以我覺得祕魯的治安不算很好喔
不過雖然被搶兩次 我們還是順利且愉快的完成行程
反正出門在外 凡事都要提高警覺囉
之前與朋友 兩個女生一起去祕魯玩兩個月 共被搶了兩次
一次是白天 靠近車站的大街上 忽然有人衝出來 搶走我手上很便宜的手錶
他動作狠利落喔 所以一開始我還不知道發生什麼事
另一次是在類似夜市的地方 一個還滿明亮的公園 有人衝過來要搶我朋友放在褲子側邊口袋的小零錢包 不過他沒得逞 因為釦子扣住了 而且更誇張的是 那搶匪失手後 還回頭看我們 再慢慢走開....所以我覺得祕魯的治安不算很好喔
不過雖然被搶兩次 我們還是順利且愉快的完成行程
反正出門在外 凡事都要提高警覺囉
初念淺轉念深
在秘魯, 有些城市很好, 有些城市有好區跟不好區, 希望棧友能把被搶的城市列出來, 可以給其它人參考.
這可能很困難，因為會不會被搶......這也是要看個人的機運的，如果硬要列出來....這一個世界可能找不到一個安全的地方
但是.....如果自己多加注意，對於感覺有些怪的地方，不要逞強，向後轉離開就可以避開一些危險（但是....對於感覺很遲鈍的人....這招就沒效了）
這可能很困難，因為會不會被搶......這也是要看個人的機運的，如果硬要列出來....這一個世界可能找不到一個安全的地方
但是.....如果自己多加注意，對於感覺有些怪的地方，不要逞強，向後轉離開就可以避開一些危險（但是....對於感覺很遲鈍的人....這招就沒效了）
最冷不過人心
一般而言 越大的城市 治安越不佳
所以如果在首都利馬 建議不要離開有警察站崗的地方
手錶被搶的那次 就是我們打算去車站買票的途中
那時已經有當地人好心的 跟我們說這邊危險
可是 我們想 大馬路邊應該不會有事吧 所以繼續往前走 過一下下 手錶就被搶了
另一次 好像是在北邊的土魯喜尤吧(抱歉 時間太久 有點忘了)
可是 我們也曾在puno的住宅區到處亂繞 還去了幾個沒有觀光客的小鎮
也坐過野雞車的巴士 都沒有發生什麼事喔
所以這種事 好像有點看運氣吧 不過我覺得 自己要先做好被搶的心理建設
反正財去人安樂 平安最重要
還有為了要把損失降到最低 手錶就戴最爛的 搶走就算了
然後大錢貼身收好 錢包只放小錢囉
所以如果在首都利馬 建議不要離開有警察站崗的地方
手錶被搶的那次 就是我們打算去車站買票的途中
那時已經有當地人好心的 跟我們說這邊危險
可是 我們想 大馬路邊應該不會有事吧 所以繼續往前走 過一下下 手錶就被搶了
另一次 好像是在北邊的土魯喜尤吧(抱歉 時間太久 有點忘了)
可是 我們也曾在puno的住宅區到處亂繞 還去了幾個沒有觀光客的小鎮
也坐過野雞車的巴士 都沒有發生什麼事喔
所以這種事 好像有點看運氣吧 不過我覺得 自己要先做好被搶的心理建設
反正財去人安樂 平安最重要
還有為了要把損失降到最低 手錶就戴最爛的 搶走就算了
然後大錢貼身收好 錢包只放小錢囉
不許鬆手
5年前也是和一位女性友人一起去祕魯旅行, 一路從Lima, Puno 玩到 Cuzco, 因為友人另有計劃, 所以回程是自己一個人走的, 並沒發生被搶或任何不愉快的事, 總之是自己要小心就是了, 尤其是在 Lima; *-)
路還長別倡狂
請問十月份有沒有人要去阿根廷呢...想要找伴一起同行...因為第一次自己單獨一人飛往阿根廷...我坐的是馬航..不知是否有人剛好這個月要去呢..可否與我同行呢....若剛好有..請跟我聯絡....因為很緊張..想找人同行...拜託啦....
PS.我的聯絡方式為:[email protected](同msn網址)
PS.我的聯絡方式為:[email protected](同msn網址)
你是我此生最美的風景
前鎮子同事轉寄了一份剪報
最近BOLIVIA頻傳綁架事件(LA PAZ近郊, 包刮COPACABANA一帶)
多半是計程車司機或是謊稱警察的宵小所犯
以2-3人的小群體為主要綁架對象
大家搭車要盡量小心 請旅館幫忙叫車是比較安全的作法
從BORDER到COPACABANA的那段路程人煙由其稀少
最好能事先找好交通工具
最近BOLIVIA頻傳綁架事件(LA PAZ近郊, 包刮COPACABANA一帶)
多半是計程車司機或是謊稱警察的宵小所犯
以2-3人的小群體為主要綁架對象
大家搭車要盡量小心 請旅館幫忙叫車是比較安全的作法
從BORDER到COPACABANA的那段路程人煙由其稀少
最好能事先找好交通工具
時光深巷
"Bolivia Sees Marked Rise In Tourist Abductions"
Some Are Slain and Raped In Attempt to Extort Cash;
Bogus Taxis, Corrupt Police
By AMIR EFRATI, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
August 29, 2006; Page D6
LA PAZ, Bolivia -- This increasingly popular stop on the travel circuit of the young and budget-conscious has had the reputation of being a safe place to visit. But a recent spate of kidnappings and slayings -- many involving twentysomething backpackers -- is changing that.
Latin America has long been a favorite travel destination for budget travelers. The area is perhaps more attractive now, after terrorist attacks have hit London and Madrid and the strong euro has made jaunts through Europe more expensive.
Travel to Bolivia, with its Amazon jungle, Andes Mountains and Lake Titicaca, has risen in recent years: In 2004, an estimated 405,000 tourists visited the country, up nearly 100,000 from 2000, according to the United Nation's World Tourism Organization. Many travelers visit Bolivia as part of a trip to neighboring Peru.
While safety concerns have dogged some countries, such as Guatemala and Colombia, Bolivia had been tranquil. The latest Lonely Planet guidebook from 2004 refers to the capital, La Paz, as "incredibly safe by South American standards."
But, since January, more than 30 tourists have been kidnapped in or near La Paz, a city of about one million. Three of those were slain and two were raped, according to diplomats. No Americans were involved, but nearly half of the victims, many of them young backpackers, hailed from the United Kingdom; others were from countries including Ireland, Holland and Germany, as well as Japan and Israel. Many were physically abused.
Many of the kidnappings involved bogus taxis or bus services with drivers who led passengers to armed abductors in neighborhoods outside the city. The tourists were forced to give up their credit-card PINs, and the kidnappers withdrew as much money as possible from ATMs. In some cases the captors were dressed in fake police uniforms, accused the visitors of carrying narcotics and took them to fake police stations.
The recent violence puts Bolivia on par with many Central and South American countries as potentially dangerous for tourists. Guatemala, Colombia, Costa Rica and Peru all have seen recent increases in armed robberies, according to the U.S. State Department. Short-term, or "express," kidnappings of U.S. citizens have occurred recently in parts of Argentina and Peru.
Since July, Bolivian authorities arrested more than a dozen people in connection with the abductions, including three policemen. Since then no kidnappings have taken place. But some diplomats, including French General Consul André Blanchard, said the trend might continue because of corrupt police officers, a lack of funds to boost security, and indigenous gangs emboldened by the recent election of Evo Morales, the first-ever indigenous president.
Many of the kidnappings, some of which lasted just a few hours, started in the tourist areas of Tiwanaku and Copacabana, about 40 miles west of La Paz on the shores of Lake Titicaca, after tourists got on minibuses promising cheap transport to the capital.
The string of kidnappings began last summer when a German and an Israeli tourist traveling together disappeared for 24 hours after boarding a bogus taxi in La Paz. Two more Germans were abducted in La Paz, and two Frenchmen were held for days in Sucre, a city to the south. Then, in January, two Austrian men and, later, a Spaniard, were abducted in La Paz by police impersonators, who later withdrew $15,000 from the Austrians' bank accounts. Diplomats said they believe the three were initially let go, but then were slain after they tried to return to retrieve their passports. Their bodies were found several months later.
Officials in Bolivia are acting. Francisco Cambero Villarroel, secretary-general of the national police, said in an email exchange more "tourist police" have been deployed to patrol the main shopping districts and bus stations in La Paz. He recommends that visitors take extra safety measures, such as using guided-travel companies. Travelers to Bolivia should take organized ground transportation between cities, especially to and from La Paz. Avoid walking alone on the streets of the capital, especially at night. For intracity travel, call licensed taxi services to arrange for trips.
Bolivian police aren't allowed to ask for tourists' passports or credit cards, and visitors should never allow authorities to take them from public view. If harassed, tourists should contact their country's embassy.
Some Are Slain and Raped In Attempt to Extort Cash;
Bogus Taxis, Corrupt Police
By AMIR EFRATI, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
August 29, 2006; Page D6
LA PAZ, Bolivia -- This increasingly popular stop on the travel circuit of the young and budget-conscious has had the reputation of being a safe place to visit. But a recent spate of kidnappings and slayings -- many involving twentysomething backpackers -- is changing that.
Latin America has long been a favorite travel destination for budget travelers. The area is perhaps more attractive now, after terrorist attacks have hit London and Madrid and the strong euro has made jaunts through Europe more expensive.
Travel to Bolivia, with its Amazon jungle, Andes Mountains and Lake Titicaca, has risen in recent years: In 2004, an estimated 405,000 tourists visited the country, up nearly 100,000 from 2000, according to the United Nation's World Tourism Organization. Many travelers visit Bolivia as part of a trip to neighboring Peru.
While safety concerns have dogged some countries, such as Guatemala and Colombia, Bolivia had been tranquil. The latest Lonely Planet guidebook from 2004 refers to the capital, La Paz, as "incredibly safe by South American standards."
But, since January, more than 30 tourists have been kidnapped in or near La Paz, a city of about one million. Three of those were slain and two were raped, according to diplomats. No Americans were involved, but nearly half of the victims, many of them young backpackers, hailed from the United Kingdom; others were from countries including Ireland, Holland and Germany, as well as Japan and Israel. Many were physically abused.
Many of the kidnappings involved bogus taxis or bus services with drivers who led passengers to armed abductors in neighborhoods outside the city. The tourists were forced to give up their credit-card PINs, and the kidnappers withdrew as much money as possible from ATMs. In some cases the captors were dressed in fake police uniforms, accused the visitors of carrying narcotics and took them to fake police stations.
The recent violence puts Bolivia on par with many Central and South American countries as potentially dangerous for tourists. Guatemala, Colombia, Costa Rica and Peru all have seen recent increases in armed robberies, according to the U.S. State Department. Short-term, or "express," kidnappings of U.S. citizens have occurred recently in parts of Argentina and Peru.
Since July, Bolivian authorities arrested more than a dozen people in connection with the abductions, including three policemen. Since then no kidnappings have taken place. But some diplomats, including French General Consul André Blanchard, said the trend might continue because of corrupt police officers, a lack of funds to boost security, and indigenous gangs emboldened by the recent election of Evo Morales, the first-ever indigenous president.
Many of the kidnappings, some of which lasted just a few hours, started in the tourist areas of Tiwanaku and Copacabana, about 40 miles west of La Paz on the shores of Lake Titicaca, after tourists got on minibuses promising cheap transport to the capital.
The string of kidnappings began last summer when a German and an Israeli tourist traveling together disappeared for 24 hours after boarding a bogus taxi in La Paz. Two more Germans were abducted in La Paz, and two Frenchmen were held for days in Sucre, a city to the south. Then, in January, two Austrian men and, later, a Spaniard, were abducted in La Paz by police impersonators, who later withdrew $15,000 from the Austrians' bank accounts. Diplomats said they believe the three were initially let go, but then were slain after they tried to return to retrieve their passports. Their bodies were found several months later.
Officials in Bolivia are acting. Francisco Cambero Villarroel, secretary-general of the national police, said in an email exchange more "tourist police" have been deployed to patrol the main shopping districts and bus stations in La Paz. He recommends that visitors take extra safety measures, such as using guided-travel companies. Travelers to Bolivia should take organized ground transportation between cities, especially to and from La Paz. Avoid walking alone on the streets of the capital, especially at night. For intracity travel, call licensed taxi services to arrange for trips.
Bolivian police aren't allowed to ask for tourists' passports or credit cards, and visitors should never allow authorities to take them from public view. If harassed, tourists should contact their country's embassy.