round the world trip -- Bolivia(2005.03.23-2005.04.20)
怪我眼瞎
% From Puno to La Paz (or Copacabana), it´s better to book a direct bus from Puno. When I crossed the border, the Peruvian police saw my passport and thought that I am from China. They took me to a room and got everything out of my bag and checked in details. Loosing some little money leagelly or illealelly is possible. Because I left my big luggage on the bus, they didn´t check it. Bring as less stuff with you as possible while crossing the border. When I returned to Puno from Copacabana, it was quite smooth. No hassel.
% La Paz is energetic; Potosi is charming; Sucre is beautiful.
% Uyuni : coming from La Paz, you can arrive there at 6-7 am, at that moment, a lot of travel agencies will come to you. It´s quite ok to book the trip in the morning and leave at the same day. Don´t book your trip in other cities, it´s more expansive. All of travel agencies offer same trip : 3- or 4-day. Basicly, these 2 trips are the same. If you want to save 1 day, just do the 3-day trip.
% Potosi : mines tours is really impressive. The tour guide will ask you for buying some coca leaves or water as gifts to miners. Just do it. Miners do need it. It´s better to bring a mask with you, it´s quite dusty inside the mines. After doing this trip, I felt so sad, so sad.
% Rurrenabaque : there are 2 ways to get to from La Paz : by air and by bus. Coming by bus, you have to pass the most dangerous road in South America. It´s called the death road. It takes about 19 hours. I took the bus to get to Rurre, I would say that it is really dangerous. One Bolivian woman has taken this bus 5 times, but she still cried on the bus because it is very dangerous. When the bus passed the narrowest road, the tires are no more than 30cm away from the cliff. I took the bus again to come back to La Paz. If you want do experience it, I recommend you take the bus from La Paz to Rurre, because the bus pass by the most dangerous section in the day time. You can see it. From Rurre to La Paz, the bus pass it in the night time. You see nothing then.
There are 2 tours in Rurre : Papams and Jungle. Both take 3-day as standard. You can see the real rainforest in Amazon by doing Jungle tour. You can take the boat on the river in Amazon by doing Papams tour. Both are good. If i can only do one of these 2 tours, I will just cry. When I did safari trip in Tanzania, I saw a Jurassic Park then. When I did Pampas tour in Rurre, I saw a Jurassic Bird Park. By the way, there were many, many, many, many mosquitos.
% Isla del Sol : if you planned to stay in the island for 1 night, probably it´s better to stay in the south part because it´s more beautiful. However, all of the hostels locate on the top of the hill. It means you have to carry your luggage and climb up. Bring as less stuff as possible. The sunrise is not that exciting but different.
% accomendation : La Paz -- POSADA del ANGEL is good. $50Bs including breakfast. address : Illampu Avenue 867. tel:2450492.e-mail:[email protected]
other traveler recommended HOSTEL COPACABANA, locates on the same street.
Rurre : I stayed in HOSTEL LOBO which is still under construction. It is one of the best hostel I have ever stayed in my life. $25Bs per bed. When you arrive at Rurre, just tell the motor-taxi driver sent you to LOBO. They know it. Rurre is quite small, you can visit all of the travel agencies in 15 minutes.
% La Paz is energetic; Potosi is charming; Sucre is beautiful.
% Uyuni : coming from La Paz, you can arrive there at 6-7 am, at that moment, a lot of travel agencies will come to you. It´s quite ok to book the trip in the morning and leave at the same day. Don´t book your trip in other cities, it´s more expansive. All of travel agencies offer same trip : 3- or 4-day. Basicly, these 2 trips are the same. If you want to save 1 day, just do the 3-day trip.
% Potosi : mines tours is really impressive. The tour guide will ask you for buying some coca leaves or water as gifts to miners. Just do it. Miners do need it. It´s better to bring a mask with you, it´s quite dusty inside the mines. After doing this trip, I felt so sad, so sad.
% Rurrenabaque : there are 2 ways to get to from La Paz : by air and by bus. Coming by bus, you have to pass the most dangerous road in South America. It´s called the death road. It takes about 19 hours. I took the bus to get to Rurre, I would say that it is really dangerous. One Bolivian woman has taken this bus 5 times, but she still cried on the bus because it is very dangerous. When the bus passed the narrowest road, the tires are no more than 30cm away from the cliff. I took the bus again to come back to La Paz. If you want do experience it, I recommend you take the bus from La Paz to Rurre, because the bus pass by the most dangerous section in the day time. You can see it. From Rurre to La Paz, the bus pass it in the night time. You see nothing then.
There are 2 tours in Rurre : Papams and Jungle. Both take 3-day as standard. You can see the real rainforest in Amazon by doing Jungle tour. You can take the boat on the river in Amazon by doing Papams tour. Both are good. If i can only do one of these 2 tours, I will just cry. When I did safari trip in Tanzania, I saw a Jurassic Park then. When I did Pampas tour in Rurre, I saw a Jurassic Bird Park. By the way, there were many, many, many, many mosquitos.
% Isla del Sol : if you planned to stay in the island for 1 night, probably it´s better to stay in the south part because it´s more beautiful. However, all of the hostels locate on the top of the hill. It means you have to carry your luggage and climb up. Bring as less stuff as possible. The sunrise is not that exciting but different.
% accomendation : La Paz -- POSADA del ANGEL is good. $50Bs including breakfast. address : Illampu Avenue 867. tel:2450492.e-mail:[email protected]
other traveler recommended HOSTEL COPACABANA, locates on the same street.
Rurre : I stayed in HOSTEL LOBO which is still under construction. It is one of the best hostel I have ever stayed in my life. $25Bs per bed. When you arrive at Rurre, just tell the motor-taxi driver sent you to LOBO. They know it. Rurre is quite small, you can visit all of the travel agencies in 15 minutes.
披著狼皮的羊
太棒了！加分加分！
今年7月我就是要從智利去玻利維亞！
Lago de titicaca在秘魯已經去過了！
但包括Uyuni、La paz、Potosi感覺都很棒！這趟應該會去吧！
因為預計要在玻利維亞待幾天還沒完全計畫完畢！
所以...到Rurrenabaque那段驚險的道路似乎頗特別（像早年的北橫公路，輪胎不只是離斷崖30公分，以前去過搭遊覽車，是根本一輪都在路外的空中了！司機就是有辦法開！！那次還起大霧，伸手不見五指那種，真的好恐怖～沿途媽媽的朋友都在拿佛珠、念經...）
而亞馬遜河的TOUR...在巴西亞馬遜河是去過了！不知有什麼差別！如果時間不允許，應該就不會去了吧！
好讚～感覺玻利維亞已經在眼前了！！！
今年7月我就是要從智利去玻利維亞！
Lago de titicaca在秘魯已經去過了！
但包括Uyuni、La paz、Potosi感覺都很棒！這趟應該會去吧！
因為預計要在玻利維亞待幾天還沒完全計畫完畢！
所以...到Rurrenabaque那段驚險的道路似乎頗特別（像早年的北橫公路，輪胎不只是離斷崖30公分，以前去過搭遊覽車，是根本一輪都在路外的空中了！司機就是有辦法開！！那次還起大霧，伸手不見五指那種，真的好恐怖～沿途媽媽的朋友都在拿佛珠、念經...）
而亞馬遜河的TOUR...在巴西亞馬遜河是去過了！不知有什麼差別！如果時間不允許，應該就不會去了吧！
好讚～感覺玻利維亞已經在眼前了！！！
人生如夢
煙斗大哥
玻利維亞在哪裡? 有什麼特色
玻利維亞在哪裡? 有什麼特色
沉默是女人最大的哭聲
煙斗大哥
玻利維亞在哪裡? 有什麼特色
玻利維亞在南美洲!祕魯東南方、智利西北方，北邊、東邊的鄰國是巴西、東南邊鄰國是巴拉圭(我們南美洲唯一邦交國)、南邊鄰國是阿根廷!
面積達109萬平方公里!約台灣30倍大!但人口卻只有800~900萬之間!
最著名的景點是與秘魯邊境的Titicaca Lake(Logo de titicaca)世界最高的高山湖泊!海拔3850公尺(與台灣第二高峰的雪山差不多高)，面積達8500平方公里左右、台灣的1/4大(台北到苗栗一整片都是湖)，超美!但我只在祕魯那邊的的的喀喀湖待過，也曾在其中一小島住上一晚!很棒~
再來大概就是鹽湖也挺出名的!一個只有藍與白的世界!雖說是鹽湖，但平均水深都大概10公分不到!因為海拔高(約4000公尺)、日照強的關係，蒸發量極大，所以一整片都是雪白色的結晶鹽，一整片有台灣的1/3大(12000平方公里左右)，映照藍天....是極為美麗的天然景色!
第三的應該會是亞馬遜河流域的亞馬遜探險之旅之類的!但....源於祕魯、玻利維亞的亞馬遜支流，河水比較偏向黃色，而且雨林裡面蚊蟲很多(在巴西瑪瑙斯的Rio Negro黑河上游源自哥倫比亞熱帶雨林區，河水偏深墨綠或暗黑色，水質呈酸性，不易滋生蚊蟲)
前面elephant有去的礦坑遊程，也是其中一項有趣的經驗!因為智利北部、祕魯南部、玻利維亞西南邊以前是著名產硝石的礦區(這幾個國家曾經為了硝石開採而打過仗!1820年代，玻利維亞與秘魯關係良好，組成聯軍要進攻搶奪智利的第三省一帶土地，卻沒想到反被剽悍的智利大軍擊退，智利因此賺到現金的第一、二省土地，而玻利維亞也因此變成內陸國家，最近10年，幾乎每一任的玻利維亞總統都會舔不知恥發表國際聲明，要智利歸還國土....自己找人家打仗打輸了，還感跟別人要回來....真虧這國家敢說!!!頗丟臉!)，是「諾貝爾」發明無煙火藥(三酸甘油脂)前，製造黑色火藥的原料!這一帶同時也是同礦產區(智利北方的銅礦產量是世界第一還是第二的，有點忘了)，而這些曠工都是十分廉價的勞工，生活極其辛勞、刻苦(如果你有去看一部叫「革命前夕的摩托車日記」電影，其中主角阿根廷的傳奇革命人物就曾經在這裡有一段感人故事)....不過!我建議在智利參觀礦坑會比較安全有保障啦!
最後大概就是世界最高的首都「La Paz」拉巴斯了吧!海拔將進4000公尺(跟台灣最高峰玉山差不多)....
最出名的動物野生動物是在湖泊、鹽湖覓食的紅鶴(佛朗明哥)....
嚴格說起來，玻利維亞都是一些高海拔的特殊自然景觀，稍微落後些!不是所有人都喜歡那種環境啦!但....煙斗老早就想去囉!
怎麼樣!應該還算詳盡吧!更詳盡的要等我7月去智利北部及玻利維亞後再來報告囉!!!
PS一下：最盡玻利維亞被美國列為「漢他病毒」疫區，像鼠疫，藉由老鼠來作為傳播媒介的一種致命疾病!!!
玻利維亞在哪裡? 有什麼特色
玻利維亞在南美洲!祕魯東南方、智利西北方，北邊、東邊的鄰國是巴西、東南邊鄰國是巴拉圭(我們南美洲唯一邦交國)、南邊鄰國是阿根廷!
面積達109萬平方公里!約台灣30倍大!但人口卻只有800~900萬之間!
最著名的景點是與秘魯邊境的Titicaca Lake(Logo de titicaca)世界最高的高山湖泊!海拔3850公尺(與台灣第二高峰的雪山差不多高)，面積達8500平方公里左右、台灣的1/4大(台北到苗栗一整片都是湖)，超美!但我只在祕魯那邊的的的喀喀湖待過，也曾在其中一小島住上一晚!很棒~
再來大概就是鹽湖也挺出名的!一個只有藍與白的世界!雖說是鹽湖，但平均水深都大概10公分不到!因為海拔高(約4000公尺)、日照強的關係，蒸發量極大，所以一整片都是雪白色的結晶鹽，一整片有台灣的1/3大(12000平方公里左右)，映照藍天....是極為美麗的天然景色!
第三的應該會是亞馬遜河流域的亞馬遜探險之旅之類的!但....源於祕魯、玻利維亞的亞馬遜支流，河水比較偏向黃色，而且雨林裡面蚊蟲很多(在巴西瑪瑙斯的Rio Negro黑河上游源自哥倫比亞熱帶雨林區，河水偏深墨綠或暗黑色，水質呈酸性，不易滋生蚊蟲)
前面elephant有去的礦坑遊程，也是其中一項有趣的經驗!因為智利北部、祕魯南部、玻利維亞西南邊以前是著名產硝石的礦區(這幾個國家曾經為了硝石開採而打過仗!1820年代，玻利維亞與秘魯關係良好，組成聯軍要進攻搶奪智利的第三省一帶土地，卻沒想到反被剽悍的智利大軍擊退，智利因此賺到現金的第一、二省土地，而玻利維亞也因此變成內陸國家，最近10年，幾乎每一任的玻利維亞總統都會舔不知恥發表國際聲明，要智利歸還國土....自己找人家打仗打輸了，還感跟別人要回來....真虧這國家敢說!!!頗丟臉!)，是「諾貝爾」發明無煙火藥(三酸甘油脂)前，製造黑色火藥的原料!這一帶同時也是同礦產區(智利北方的銅礦產量是世界第一還是第二的，有點忘了)，而這些曠工都是十分廉價的勞工，生活極其辛勞、刻苦(如果你有去看一部叫「革命前夕的摩托車日記」電影，其中主角阿根廷的傳奇革命人物就曾經在這裡有一段感人故事)....不過!我建議在智利參觀礦坑會比較安全有保障啦!
最後大概就是世界最高的首都「La Paz」拉巴斯了吧!海拔將進4000公尺(跟台灣最高峰玉山差不多)....
最出名的動物野生動物是在湖泊、鹽湖覓食的紅鶴(佛朗明哥)....
嚴格說起來，玻利維亞都是一些高海拔的特殊自然景觀，稍微落後些!不是所有人都喜歡那種環境啦!但....煙斗老早就想去囉!
怎麼樣!應該還算詳盡吧!更詳盡的要等我7月去智利北部及玻利維亞後再來報告囉!!!
PS一下：最盡玻利維亞被美國列為「漢他病毒」疫區，像鼠疫，藉由老鼠來作為傳播媒介的一種致命疾病!!!
陪你裝逼陪你浪
我也去爬過 Potosi 的礦坑.
覺得自己差點死在裡面.
真是永生難忘.
鹽湖只有在雨季才會有水, 其他時候是乾的.
La Paz 的海拔是 3600 左右.
玻利維亞和秘魯本身就是同一個國家, 人種語言都一樣, 會變成二個國家是 Simon Bolivar 的私心.
玻利維亞+秘魯大戰智利的那場戰役, 史稱太平洋戰爭, 想暸解的可以問 Google.
至於玻利維亞有什麼好玩的, 可以看我很久以前寫的 "玻利維亞旅遊規畫".
Mario
2005.04.25.
覺得自己差點死在裡面.
真是永生難忘.
鹽湖只有在雨季才會有水, 其他時候是乾的.
La Paz 的海拔是 3600 左右.
玻利維亞和秘魯本身就是同一個國家, 人種語言都一樣, 會變成二個國家是 Simon Bolivar 的私心.
玻利維亞+秘魯大戰智利的那場戰役, 史稱太平洋戰爭, 想暸解的可以問 Google.
至於玻利維亞有什麼好玩的, 可以看我很久以前寫的 "玻利維亞旅遊規畫".
Mario
2005.04.25.
你沒有酒窩我卻醉得像條狗
謝謝煙斗 實在太詳盡了 六月的煙斗聚會 想必也是知無不言 言無不盡吧! 聽眾有福了
心涼就在一瞬間
When I was in Salt Lake at the end of March, there was some water in the lake ( only few centimeters). The jeep drove on the lake. It was more beautiful and interesting. Yes, that scenery was classical.
吃素的蚊子
湖面有水的話, 只有雨季才有, 而且是雨季前後才有.
有點水的話, 行程也會縮水, 因為鹽水很傷車.
我十一月去的時候是乾的.
看過雨季時的照片, 真的超美超感動.
但問了一下當地人........他們說..........
"沒有那麼浪漫啦..整個行程又熱又溼..晚上很冷.."
OOXX的一堆, 似乎讓我覺得沒有雨是幸福的.
印象中有本旅遊書的封面就是有水的鹽湖, 果然被我找到了.
http://www.roughguides.com/store/details.html?ProductID=356
Mario
2005.04.29.
Mario.
2005.04.29
有點水的話, 行程也會縮水, 因為鹽水很傷車.
我十一月去的時候是乾的.
看過雨季時的照片, 真的超美超感動.
但問了一下當地人........他們說..........
"沒有那麼浪漫啦..整個行程又熱又溼..晚上很冷.."
OOXX的一堆, 似乎讓我覺得沒有雨是幸福的.
印象中有本旅遊書的封面就是有水的鹽湖, 果然被我找到了.
http://www.roughguides.com/store/details.html?ProductID=356
Mario
2005.04.29.
Mario.
2005.04.29