[北印] 齋沙默爾(Jaisalmer) 及碧卡內(Bikaner)及Camel Safair討論區

你沒有酒窩我卻醉得像條狗
我們打算從Delhi--Agra--Jaipur--Pushkar--Jodhpur--Bikaner or Jaisalmer--Delhi共19天
1.不知道去Bikaner還是Jaisalmer好?
2.還有我們想參加camel safair,不知道行程中做哪些活動?看些什麼東西?大概要參加幾天的行程才夠?還有要注意哪些事?
3.這樣的行程可否給些建議?或是推薦其他不錯的點?時間會不會太短?
感激不盡啦! :-)

相關討論: (ip) 1.齋沙默爾(Jaisalmer)住宿收集 (https://www.backpackers.com.tw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31132),(I)2.客棧Jaisalmeri的Camel Safair搜尋結果 (http://www.google.com.tw/search?as_q=Camel+Safari&num=100&hl=zh-TW&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2006-19%2CGGLG%3Azh-TW&btnG=Google+%E6%90%9C%E5%B0%8B&as_epq=Jaisalmer&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=www.backpackers.com.tw&as_rights=&safe=images)
騎豬去兜風
I joined the Shahi Palace Camel Safari,too.But I am not good at cutting price :( .Therefore the final price is 1700rupee for 2day. I used to join the desert Safari in Egypt.In my opinion,that's awesome!!Because in Jaisalmer,never expecting you can see the Great Sand Dune!! But you will have 2 hours camel-riding.And one more thing,total 12 tourists go camel safari with us !! What a ......Hence I suppose Shahi Palace's camel safari doesn't deserve the price.You can easily get 900rupee for 2 days safari from other agents.
碧海藍天鑽戒白婚紗我的他
Is anyone interested in Bhang lassi ? I am not sure if it's legal or not to discuss this in backpacker forum.But you can find a Bhang lassi shop in Jaisalmer.It locates on the right side of Jaisalmer fort's first gate. Precisely speaking, it is the only one Bhang shop in Jaisalmer.They provide something like,Bhang lassi,Bhang mango juice,Bhang cake,Bhang cookies. It costs from 50 to 70 rupee for a drink or cookie. I took 1 medium and 2 strong
Bhang lassi a day but a little disappointed with that.Nothing but a little fever and dazzling.And I also bought 2 Bhang cookies for night-train trip. Thought weaker than liquid drink.Anyway, it's still a funny experience.

PS. Bhang lassi means lassi within cannabis.

PS2. I found a hookah bar in Old delhi,they provide tobacco from Dubai ,charge 100 rupee for 1 hr.If everyone interests in that,just ask me for the business card.
選擇離開就別回頭
很想參加2009年的Jaisalmer Desert Festival
http://www.istc.org/sisp/index.htm?fx=event&event_id=11495
在上面的link中找到,2009年的日期了
不過我們預計2009/2/8返德里, then回台,只能參加2/7一天....不過能參加已經很讚了~

Desert Festival***
When:7 - 9 Feb 2009 (annual)Where:JaisalmerThe golden city of Jaisalmer in Rajasthan comes alive each February for the annual Desert Festival. The event kicks off with an incredible parade of camels and locals dressed in fine Rajasthani mirrored clothes, with accompanying musicians.
Indian acrobatic troupes, puppeteers, fakirs and jugglers of all sorts scamper through the massive red sandstone fort and perform in the desert surrounding the town. Camel races and polo matches on camels (a legacy of the Raj) take place at the Dedansar Polo Ground, there are competitions for turban-tying and even a moustache competition, seeking the Rajasthani with the finest and longest facial hair
醜的無可挑剔
我先道歉一下因為要問的問題跟住宿沒關。

我本來蠻想去Jaisalmer 但是我跟旅伴計畫會在印度的時間是四到五月,等我們到了Jaisalmer都快要五月中了。請問這個時間去Camel safari 會不會熱到令人無法忍受?其實我不是很怕熱的人(在台灣夏天不需要冷氣就可以每天晚上三秒鐘入睡、七八月在新加坡也不覺得特別熱),只是小小覺得我好像也沒有特別一定要去camel safari (因為看看照片不覺得有"很"沙漠的感覺),尤其如果考慮炎熱因素。

所以我真正的問題應該是... 請問有人在四五月去camel safari 過可以kindly分享一下溫度如何?另外如果不去camel safari 的話,大家還會建議在五月去這個沙漠城市嗎?

還有... 如果只能二選一的話,Mt Abu(避暑勝地耶... 本來不在行程內但是好吸引人的感覺)跟Jaisalmer在五月天大家會選哪個呢?

謝謝。
你若安好那還得了
我參加的是 hotel paradise 的 2D1N 行程, 我們一行5人, 每人RS1000, 包駱駝, 四驅車接送, 早及晚餐, 還有睡覺的被, 和2個附近景點參觀行程。

Rs1000 / 人, 看起來是很合理的, 不過這個價錢沒有營幕住的, 要睡中沙漠上, 有些時候, 特別是清晨時分, 也很冷。

後來發現 hotel paradise 旁邊的 sagar guest house 所賣的行程有帳篷住, 也是Rs450 一天, 感覺就有點不是味兒了。而且sagar guest house 的房也比 hotel paradise 漂亮, 見附圖。
一笑而忘之
0114~0116參加了Jaisalmer The Desert Haveli的三天兩夜Camel Safari
ㄧ天700Rs 三名觀光客 三位Camel guide 其他兩位澳洲人ㄧ天600Rs
我門的行程是沒去逛廟的 參觀了一個村莊 其實我覺得參觀村莊很無聊 會有ㄧ堆人跟你要東西
今年是反聖嬰年 所以我的camel safari跟大家的都不太依樣....
我在三天中只有短暫的陽光 還下了兩次大雨
我門的camel guide說他做了七年第一次遇到這種狀況
第一天中午下了第一次雨 雨大到頭髮會滴水的程度
我跟兩個澳洲人要拿著毯子擋雨 guide在下面做飯
因雨下太大 chapati沒辦法在鍋子裡做 我門丟了一堆樹枝把火弄很大
然後把麵團丟到灰燼裡埋起來 像埪窯ㄧ樣 澳洲人叫"damp pot" 我不知道這樣拼對不對還請知道的人提供正解~
最後chapati跟鐵餅ㄧ樣 又厚又實
那頓午餐我們弄了三個多小時

晚上真的很冷...
我自己有帶睡袋(可以到零下五度) 半夜臉被風吹冷到受不了 醒來幾次
澳洲情侶沒帶睡袋 所以他們要蓋很多件毯子 睡在火堆旁 然後兩人抱在ㄧ起睡 他們晚上還會抖
因為天氣
雖然沒看到滿天星斗跟大玉盤 不過我看到早晨的沙漠迷霧也覺得不錯

下面是我覺得ㄧ定要帶的東西
手電筒 能帶頭燈更好
很多濕紙巾跟衛生紙
餐具 (不然就像我三天用手吃小米粥 跟咖哩八)
防風帽
想抽菸的要帶防風打火機 我整根濾嘴都濕透了還點不著哈哈
雨具....誰說的準呢 我就遇到兩次了哈哈

我出發前一天回來的韓國人跟我說ㄧ定要帶太陽眼鏡 防曬乳 遮陽帽
我問他們會不會冷 他們說沒問題會有很多毯子給你依點都不冷

我跟韓國人就只差一天而已 可是情況就天壤地別
我覺得safari真的很好玩 特別對大部分台灣人來說都沒看過沙漠
因為心浪所以微勃
請問有 Mr. Desert的聯絡方式或名片圖檔嗎?
若參加Camel Safair第二天可以趕上(火車4060班次,16:30pm Jaislmer開出,04:50am到Jaipur)的這班嗎??
感恩
我以為沒了我你會慌
請問有 Mr. Desert的聯絡方式或名片圖檔嗎?
若參加Camel Safair第二天可以趕上(火車4060班次,16:30pm Jaislmer開出,04:50am到Jaipur)的這班嗎??
感恩

'Mr. Desert'屬Sahara Travels. 你可搜索: http://www.mrdesertemeritus.com/contacts.html
在7月底,我曾接觸三個LP推薦的Camel Safair旅行社,結果;
1) 'Mr. Desert'的Sahara Travels:http://www.mrdesertemeritus.co/contacts.html,
沒有答复
2) Ganesh Travels:[email protected]: 立即答复, 550Rs/day/person ,
3) Trotter: http://www.trotterscamelsafarijaisalmer.com/:立即答复. 750Rs/day/person

BTW, 2010-08-03 LP的forum;
'Mr Desert aka Sahara Travels Jaisalmer, Rajasthan':
I write to advise travelers of a problem encountered with Mr Desert, owner/operater of Sahara Travels, Jaisalmer, Rajasthan. Camel treks offered by this company were environmentally & culturally aware, good value for money, with the camels being treated humanely, and so each year visiting Jaisalmer I would exclusively use ST for treks into the Thar Desert, in addition to recommending the services of ST to other travelers.

However, during last visit there (March 2007) Mr Desert guaranteed he would find a camel hair rug to be mailed to me, as I had not encountered previous issues nor reason to doubt Mr Desert, whom I had believed over the years to be completely trustworthy, I provided a sum of money to Mr Desert covering cost of rug & postage.

Yes, well, unfortunately, despite multiple emails to Mr Desert I have yet to receive any response or camel hair rug from Sahara Travels.

'Still Waiting'

FYI
承諾如泡沫般脆弱
'Mr. Desert'屬Sahara Travels. 你可搜索: http://www.mrdesertemeritus.com/contacts.html
在7月底,我曾接觸三個LP推薦的Camel Safair旅行社,結果;
1) 'Mr. Desert'的Sahara Travels:http://www.mrdesertemeritus.co/contacts.html,
沒有答复
2) Ganesh Travels:[email protected]: 立即答复, 550Rs/day/person ,
3) Trotter: http://www.trotterscamelsafarijaisalmer.com/:立即答复. 750Rs/day/person

BTW, 2010-08-03 LP的forum;
'Mr Desert aka Sahara Travels Jaisalmer, Rajasthan':
I write to advise travelers of a problem encountered with Mr Desert, owner/operater of Sahara Travels, Jaisalmer, Rajasthan. Camel treks offered by this company were environmentally & culturally aware, good value for money, with the camels being treated humanely, and so each year visiting Jaisalmer I would exclusively use ST for treks into the Thar Desert, in addition to recommending the services of ST to other travelers.

However, during last visit there (March 2007) Mr Desert guaranteed he would find a camel hair rug to be mailed to me, as I had not encountered previous issues nor reason to doubt Mr Desert, whom I had believed over the years to be completely trustworthy, I provided a sum of money to Mr Desert covering cost of rug & postage.

Yes, well, unfortunately, despite multiple emails to Mr Desert I have yet to receive any response or camel hair rug from Sahara Travels.

'Still Waiting'

FYI

嗯嗯!! 感謝...那請問對於後兩者
您之前有參加其一之行程嗎???
當風箏遇上風
嗯嗯!! 感謝...那請問對於後兩者
您之前有參加其一之行程嗎???

最後,我選擇Ganesh Travels. 原因是他們專業和詳細的答复,如下所示;

From: [email protected]
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Camel Safari
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:12:20 +0000

dear sir,
you are welcome at ganeshtravel.we can do the camel safari in
this time of the year.we do this camel safari towards touristic and non
touristic route and if you want to go futhure deep in to the desert we also
organise an off the beaten treck which involve jeep ride to take you 40km
out from jaisalmer to south west near desert national padk and than you will
start camel from there . the programme is as follow.........
DAY 1.dep.7.30 am by jeep for one hour &start riding camel at 8.30to 12.30 than 3
hours lunch break on a oasis &again start camel riding from 3.30 to 6.30 pm.
&than, sun set on the sand dunes camp fire ,camel man singing,dinner,
&sleeping on the sand dunes under the star.
DAY 2.start 8.30 am to 12.30 pm and 3.30 pm to 5. pm &
than picked up by jeep at 5 . pm and get back to jaisalmer at 6.pm.
conclusion-- so total riding on the camel is 5 hours a day(it can be flexible)
&every day you will see at least two different villageses aday.& both night
you will sleep on the different sand dunes. prices--it will cost @450 rs
per day per personfor camel safari and 100 rs per day per person for jeep so
total cost is550 rs per day per person. FACILITIES-- this price includes
three meals a day break fast , lunch, dinner. LUNCH & DINNER--all veg. food
like dal ,rice,chapatti,fresh vegetable,pakora, finger
chips,spegetti,salad, tea, coffee, etc...... BREAKFAST-----toast with jam &peanut
butter,porridge,tea &coffee,eggs, etc,,,,,,, FRUIT---two pieces of fruit on each meal
for each person. MINERALE WATER-- you can drink as much as you want.
CAMEL--each person get there own cameland will not share with anybody.
LUGGEGE--you can store in lock room with free of charge. SLEEPING ARRANGEMENT--we
provide you mattress and blanket planty from the cold. GUIDE--good english
speaking guide.and you can also take a shower for paying 25 rs per person
after camel safari in our complex. to get contact with the manager. the phone
no. is as follow OFFICE--02992250138 RESIDENCE--02992253119 cell phone no.
9929280777. with this cell no. you can talk with the manager to anytime.
ps. we are looking fotward to serve you in our thar desert.
best regards
sebastian(manager)
c/o ganesh travels

Trotter只大致回覆,答复如下:

Hello xxxxxx,
Thanx for your email and interesting our safari. Prides itself on going further off the beaten trail.
We have different safari then other that b cost you 750/- Rs Per day per person including jeep to drop u in feather out of desert, food, fruit, mineral water on camel blanket-mattress and jeep for return back in town. (Bear & Tant are not include). We go different then other you will see really local life of desert with old fort, empty village and villages really big sand dunes. You sleep under of the starts with blanket-mattress and see beautiful sunset on big sand dunes.
Thanks,
IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION SO JUST CALL ME ON MY CELL PHONE.
With Regards,

Delboy09828929974