[英文]為什麼台灣人說北京話????
風吹起的舊時光
★這篇討論主要是針對英文方面的交流來討論
請不要究個人的意識型態、政治主張....進行中文的筆戰★
想討論這個話題
不過又有點怕怕的
因為這似乎是個有點容易引來不必要筆戰的話題(請大家放輕鬆來討論哦!!)
不過卻也是我在紐澳時還滿常被西方人問的問題
每次當他們問
Where are you from?
我回答
I am Taiwanese
後
就會有人問
那你們是說Taiwanese還是Chinese啊
不然就是問
那為什麼Taiwanese和大陸人Chinese的語言是相同的???
還有一些對亞洲國家(中、日、韓....)完全沒概念的
會認為我們和日本人、韓國人說的都是同一種語言，彼此是可以溝通的....
這也不能怪他們啦
就像我也不一定聽的出德文和西班牙文的不同啦.......
我不是語言學家只能用一點點自己的理解來和他們解釋：
在台灣大部分的人會台語Taiwanese
它是中文的方言dialect的一種(廣東話也是方言的一種)
北京話(or普通話)Mandarin則是台灣的官方語言official language
中國大陸的官方語言也是北京話(or普通話)
用詞上雖然會有些不同
就像美式英文American English和英式英文British English一樣
所以我們在說話上的溝通是沒問題的
不過在寫字方面
台灣用的是正體中文traditional Chinese
大陸用的是簡體中文 Simplified Chinese
算是簡化過simplified的中文字
我們也還是可以理解簡體中文啦
Most of Taiwanese speak Taiwanese.
It is one dialect of Chinese. (Cantonese is another one of the Chinese dialect.)
Mandarin is our official language in Taiwan.
That is why we also speak Mandarin.
Mandarin is the official language of mainland China as well.
Some terms may be different.
Just like American English and British English....
So it is no problem for us to communicate.
For writing,
we use traditional Chinese in Taiwan, but they use Simplified Chinese in China.
The characters are simplified, but we can still understand.
至於中、日、韓...是不是說同一種語言
當然不是啦.........
只是有些詞的發音或許很像
所以有時我們可以猜的出一些些
而且我們使用的漢字Chinese character在日本和韓國也有部分被使用在他們的語言中
所以有的時侯我們可以寫一些漢字來溝通
Of course Chinese, Japanese, Korean are not the same.
Just some terms may be sound similar, so we can guess a bit sometimes.
And some Chinese characters we use are also used in some part of their language.
so sometimes we can communicate by writing some characters.
以上是我的一些淺見啦
也想聽聽有沒有其他的說法囉!!!!!
關於Mandarin的討論
http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/question?qid=1607012301247
http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/question?qid=1106120109132
請不要究個人的意識型態、政治主張....進行中文的筆戰★
想討論這個話題
不過又有點怕怕的
因為這似乎是個有點容易引來不必要筆戰的話題(請大家放輕鬆來討論哦!!)
不過卻也是我在紐澳時還滿常被西方人問的問題
每次當他們問
Where are you from?
我回答
I am Taiwanese
後
就會有人問
那你們是說Taiwanese還是Chinese啊
不然就是問
那為什麼Taiwanese和大陸人Chinese的語言是相同的???
還有一些對亞洲國家(中、日、韓....)完全沒概念的
會認為我們和日本人、韓國人說的都是同一種語言，彼此是可以溝通的....
這也不能怪他們啦
就像我也不一定聽的出德文和西班牙文的不同啦.......
我不是語言學家只能用一點點自己的理解來和他們解釋：
在台灣大部分的人會台語Taiwanese
它是中文的方言dialect的一種(廣東話也是方言的一種)
北京話(or普通話)Mandarin則是台灣的官方語言official language
中國大陸的官方語言也是北京話(or普通話)
用詞上雖然會有些不同
就像美式英文American English和英式英文British English一樣
所以我們在說話上的溝通是沒問題的
不過在寫字方面
台灣用的是正體中文traditional Chinese
大陸用的是簡體中文 Simplified Chinese
算是簡化過simplified的中文字
我們也還是可以理解簡體中文啦
Most of Taiwanese speak Taiwanese.
It is one dialect of Chinese. (Cantonese is another one of the Chinese dialect.)
Mandarin is our official language in Taiwan.
That is why we also speak Mandarin.
Mandarin is the official language of mainland China as well.
Some terms may be different.
Just like American English and British English....
So it is no problem for us to communicate.
For writing,
we use traditional Chinese in Taiwan, but they use Simplified Chinese in China.
The characters are simplified, but we can still understand.
至於中、日、韓...是不是說同一種語言
當然不是啦.........
只是有些詞的發音或許很像
所以有時我們可以猜的出一些些
而且我們使用的漢字Chinese character在日本和韓國也有部分被使用在他們的語言中
所以有的時侯我們可以寫一些漢字來溝通
Of course Chinese, Japanese, Korean are not the same.
Just some terms may be sound similar, so we can guess a bit sometimes.
And some Chinese characters we use are also used in some part of their language.
so sometimes we can communicate by writing some characters.
以上是我的一些淺見啦
也想聽聽有沒有其他的說法囉!!!!!
關於Mandarin的討論
http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/question?qid=1607012301247
http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/question?qid=1106120109132
想炸學校好多年了
其實大陸北方的普通話捲舌比較多，
所以我們香港人有時候很難聽得懂北京人說的普通話，
不知道你們會不會？不過個人來說我就聽得懂，
還有因為看得比較多的簡體小說，
所以也懂得寫簡體字。
有些詞語也會不同，不過好像也很容易明白。
其實對於我來說：
外國人也是同一個模樣 ＾口＾
我想在外國人的眼中東方人也是同一個模樣吧 －＿－”
所以我們香港人有時候很難聽得懂北京人說的普通話，
不知道你們會不會？不過個人來說我就聽得懂，
還有因為看得比較多的簡體小說，
所以也懂得寫簡體字。
有些詞語也會不同，不過好像也很容易明白。
其實對於我來說：
外國人也是同一個模樣 ＾口＾
我想在外國人的眼中東方人也是同一個模樣吧 －＿－”
入骨情話
因為偉大的秦始皇 統一了語言, 選用現在的國語作標準語言....
你與時光皆薄情
★這篇討論主要是針對英文方面的交流來
Where are you from?
I am Taiwanese
Most of Taiwanese speak Taiwanese.
It is one dialect of Chinese. (Cantonese is another one of the Chinese dialect.)
Mandarin is our official language in Taiwan.
That is why we also speak Mandarin.
Mandarin is the official language of mainland China as well.
Some terms may be different.
Just like American English and British English....
So it is no problem for us to communicate.
For writing,
we use traditional Chinese in Taiwan, but they use Simplified Chinese in China.
The characters are simplified, but we can still understand.
Of course Chinese, Japanese, Korean are not the same.
Just some terms may be sound similar, so we can guess a bit sometimes.
And some Chinese characters we use are also used in some part of their language.
so sometimes we can communicate by writing some characters.
以上是我的一些淺見啦
也想聽聽有沒有其他的說法囉!!!!!
qid=1106120109132[/url]
I would say : China and Taiwan are two countries, not one.
We both speak Mandarin but Taiwan use Traditional Chinese as writing character, China use Simplified Chinese.
The major difference between Taiwan and China is this. China is a dictatorial regime while Taiwan is a democratic country.
Where are you from?
I am Taiwanese
Most of Taiwanese speak Taiwanese.
It is one dialect of Chinese. (Cantonese is another one of the Chinese dialect.)
Mandarin is our official language in Taiwan.
That is why we also speak Mandarin.
Mandarin is the official language of mainland China as well.
Some terms may be different.
Just like American English and British English....
So it is no problem for us to communicate.
For writing,
we use traditional Chinese in Taiwan, but they use Simplified Chinese in China.
The characters are simplified, but we can still understand.
Of course Chinese, Japanese, Korean are not the same.
Just some terms may be sound similar, so we can guess a bit sometimes.
And some Chinese characters we use are also used in some part of their language.
so sometimes we can communicate by writing some characters.
以上是我的一些淺見啦
也想聽聽有沒有其他的說法囉!!!!!
qid=1106120109132[/url]
I would say : China and Taiwan are two countries, not one.
We both speak Mandarin but Taiwan use Traditional Chinese as writing character, China use Simplified Chinese.
The major difference between Taiwan and China is this. China is a dictatorial regime while Taiwan is a democratic country.
寥寥清歡
因為偉大的秦始皇 統一了語言, 選用現在的國語作標準語言....秦始皇只有(書同文.車同軌) 當時的官方語言是陜西話吧?*-)
素顏淺笑
I was also asked of the same question by many foreigners. This is what I often replied. I don't feel upset if people said I'm Chinese. I'll get really offended if people said that I'm from China. I often rebut by saying that we are a democratic country with our own elected president, while China is a communist country.
把心掏空狠狠愛
I was also asked of the same question by many foreigners. This is what I often replied. I don't feel upset if people said I'm Chinese. I'll get really offended if people said that I'm from China. I often rebut by saying that we are a democratic country with our own elected president, while China is a communist country.
And you are a Taiwanese, don't forget that.
And you are a Taiwanese, don't forget that.
舊時明月舊時光
Americans.English.Canadians.Ozs and Kiwis , they all speak English as official language, but are they one country ? Of course not!
I will come up with this answer when asked of your question.
I will come up with this answer when asked of your question.
願此生與你再無瓜葛
跟樓上講的一樣
就跟他講
美國
加拿大
英國
紐西蘭
澳洲
不也都講英文?
有些非洲國家的官方語言也是英文阿
那...
為什麼紐西蘭人不講紐西蘭話阿?
呵
想到一件事
某次去髮廊洗頭
洗頭小妹找我聊天
她們老闆有給她講說 我去澳洲玩
小妹問我
請問澳洲人是不是講澳語?
8-)
就跟他講
美國
加拿大
英國
紐西蘭
澳洲
不也都講英文?
有些非洲國家的官方語言也是英文阿
那...
為什麼紐西蘭人不講紐西蘭話阿?
呵
想到一件事
某次去髮廊洗頭
洗頭小妹找我聊天
她們老闆有給她講說 我去澳洲玩
小妹問我
請問澳洲人是不是講澳語?
8-)
時光向來煞人
問來自哪, 當然一定是說Taiwan/Taiwanese
但被詢問台灣人都什麼語時, Chinese 一詞確實讓很多外國人傻傻分不清
我是都只簡單的說我們是2個不同的國家, 但來自相同的文化傳統
China and Taiwan are different countries, but we from a same traditional culture.
再根據對方背景, 舉一個他比較瞭的語言說明 (下選一個就可,樓上有寫範例了抄下來)
.就像說英語的不是只有英國人喔, 比如美加.紐澳啦
Americans.English.Canadians.Ozs and Kiwis , they all speak English as official language, but they are not one country. right ?!
.說西班牙話的也不只有西班牙人喔, 比如中南美洲很多國家巴拿馬秘魯啦
類推
.說阿拉伯語的不是只有中東國家喔, 比如北非很多國家摩洛哥啦
類推
.說中文的還有新加坡跟一部份的馬來西亞人喔, 我們也不是同個國家喔
類推
除非對方非常想再瞭解, 不然簡單舉個例別人就懂了,別講太多, 別人更亂....
但被詢問台灣人都什麼語時, Chinese 一詞確實讓很多外國人傻傻分不清
我是都只簡單的說我們是2個不同的國家, 但來自相同的文化傳統
China and Taiwan are different countries, but we from a same traditional culture.
再根據對方背景, 舉一個他比較瞭的語言說明 (下選一個就可,樓上有寫範例了抄下來)
.就像說英語的不是只有英國人喔, 比如美加.紐澳啦
Americans.English.Canadians.Ozs and Kiwis , they all speak English as official language, but they are not one country. right ?!
.說西班牙話的也不只有西班牙人喔, 比如中南美洲很多國家巴拿馬秘魯啦
類推
.說阿拉伯語的不是只有中東國家喔, 比如北非很多國家摩洛哥啦
類推
.說中文的還有新加坡跟一部份的馬來西亞人喔, 我們也不是同個國家喔
類推
除非對方非常想再瞭解, 不然簡單舉個例別人就懂了,別講太多, 別人更亂....
純屬虛構
真是奇妙的星期五下午
突然之間讓這個一個多月沒人理的話題
得到這麼多的回應
感謝各位精彩的回覆啦!!!
突然之間讓這個一個多月沒人理的話題
得到這麼多的回應
感謝各位精彩的回覆啦!!!